tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6877063.post7034344292434273403..comments2023-10-27T02:21:24.958-05:00Comments on Liberal Faith Development: At least Barack Obama didn't ask this religious leader to speak at the Inauguration ...Steve Caldwellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12333184436301854794noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6877063.post-61850336266180506582008-12-24T09:18:00.000-06:002008-12-24T09:18:00.000-06:00Fausto wrote:-snip-"Although, to be fair to the Po...Fausto wrote:<BR/>-snip-<BR/><I>"Although, to be fair to the Pope, our fellow UU blogger serenityhome suggests that The Telegraph may have misconstrued the Pope's comments."</I><BR/><BR/>Fausto,<BR/><BR/>I cannot find the complete text of the Pope's remarks, but I did find this quote on a traditionalist Catholic news web site:<BR/><BR/><B>"That Creator Spirit, the Pope observed, helps Christians to understand 'our responsibility toward the earth. It is not simply our property to be exploited according to our interests and desires. Rather, it is a gift of the Creator.' However, he added, concern for God's creation cannot be limited to care for the natural environment-- although that is certainly a part of it. Far more important, he said, is the Church's mission to preserve what he called referred to as 'something like an ecology of the human being, understood in the proper manner.' In this context, the Pope said that the Church must teach clearly about the nature of the human person, to counteract the influence of secular ideologies that confuse and diminish human dignity. He spoke specifically about "gender ideology," insisting that God created man and woman as complementary, and the Church "demands that this order of creation be respected" by promotion of marriage and family life.</B><BR/>http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=60265<BR/><BR/>Yes -- it's accurate to say the Pope didn't use words like "homosexuality" or "homosexual" the portions of his talk online.<BR/><BR/>But what he said doesn't favor justice for our bisexual, gay, lesbian, or transgender neighbors either. It also doesn't favor those who want justice for all genders either.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think he's trying to obscure anti-BGLT bigotry through theological bullshit.<BR/><BR/>And I've read that gay and lesbian Christian groups around the world are interpreting his commments as homophobic:<BR/><BR/>The UK's Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement (LGCM) called his remarks "irresponsible and unacceptable."<BR/><BR/>Vladimir Luxuria, a transgender politician and former Italian MP, called his words "hurtful."<BR/><BR/>It's not just the UK's Telegraph that's reporting this story - a Google News search this morning for "Pope Benedict" and "gay":<BR/><BR/>http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=pope%20benedict%20gay&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn<BR/><BR/>The Pope has resources not available to the average citizen -- he's a public figure like a politician.<BR/><BR/>If his comments were somehow misunderstood by the press and he really didn't intend to sound homophobic, I'm sure he could fix this with a press release.<BR/><BR/>Celebrities have to do this sort of "damage control" all the time -- look at Mel Gibson's apology to the Jewish Communities after his DUI arrest.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the Pope doesn't view his comments as damaging and the Telegraph didn't get it wrong?Steve Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333184436301854794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6877063.post-13734522296151590022008-12-24T09:15:00.000-06:002008-12-24T09:15:00.000-06:00Ratzinger a pretty deep guy. I'd be very cautious...Ratzinger a pretty deep guy. I'd be very cautious of anyones intrepretation of him without having read his comments in full first.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6877063.post-24852313161905211042008-12-24T07:27:00.000-06:002008-12-24T07:27:00.000-06:00Although, to be fair to the Pope, our fellow UU bl...Although, to be fair to the Pope, our fellow <A HREF="http://serenityhome.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/more-sex-please-says-pope/" REL="nofollow">UU blogger serenityhome suggests</A> that The Telegraph may have misconstrued the Pope's comments. If that's the case The Telegraph, as well as you and I in our first reactions, would have allowed our presuppositions to infect our perceptions and lead us to false judgments.<BR/><BR/>Which happens, among us UUs as well as everyone else, far more often than we like to admit.<BR/><BR/>Something to think about at this darkest time of the year, when we await the arrival of growing light.faustohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858053354116695746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6877063.post-21241752519596301592008-12-23T22:57:00.000-06:002008-12-23T22:57:00.000-06:00The Pope speaks of respecting creation, but appare...The Pope speaks of respecting creation, but apparently it hasn't occurred to him that each of us is created as we are, not as he thinks we ought to have been. Perhaps he's the one who is not listening attentively enough to the language of creation.<BR/><BR/>I realize you're being rhetorical, of course, but can you imagine? If Obama had invited the Pope to speak at his inauguration? That would set tongues wagging a lot more that Rick Warren did for a lot of reasons.faustohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858053354116695746noreply@blogger.com